ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

[medallo]

hi.
why ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac without postscript?
How do you print those that have mac with ricoh with other paper sizes (not A4, not legal, not letter) other sizes?
or I am bound to get sd card postscript

[bsm2]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

Only Canon supports PCL on Macs

Why does't Ricoh add Postscript with all there Machines? Like Kyocera?


Cost factor plus about 1 out every 100 installs I run into has a Mac

[techandtrader]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

Marketshare and last I knew Canon and HP are on top.

[copier tech]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

hi.
why ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac without postscript?
How do you print those that have mac with ricoh with other paper sizes (not A4, not legal, not letter) other sizes?
or I am bound to get sd card postscript

The new Ricohs from MPCxx04ex have Postscript emulation as standard

[KenB]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

The new Ricohs from MPCxx04ex have Postscript emulation as standard

The key word here is “emulation”.

In my experience, emulated PostScript normally fares poorly compared to genuine Adobe PostScript. PCL or Canon’s UFRII for Mac work fairly well, but not as well.

It’s not a standard feature because a licensing fee goes to Adobe. There is no sense in including it as most users will never need it.

Keep in mind, though, that many higher end Windows apps can take advantage of PostScript. And don’t forget that a lot of Linux flavors have a taste for it, too.

Most Mac users have learned to expect the premium cost.

[slimslob]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

MAC does have a built in Generic PCL Driver that does work with Ricoh. It does not allow setting options.

[sandmanmac]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

While I know this is true, I've often wondered myself how it is that even the cheapest 'box store' printers include P/S and when it comes to Ricoh, it's also a standard feature on the small MFP's and standalone printers

[KenB]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

While I know this is true, I've often wondered myself how it is that even the cheapest 'box store' printers include P/S and when it comes to Ricoh, it's also a standard feature on the small MFP's and standalone printers

I agree.

Even my $150 Brother desktop printer has PostScript.

Again, though, it's not Adobe PostScript. I think it's called "BrotherScript".

Apparently, Ricoh feels that if you are purchasing a higher end printer, that you would want the real deal, and go for the Adobe version.

Then again, who knows what kind of relationships printer manufacturers have with Adobe...that's not for us mere mortals to know.

[slimslob]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

I agree.

Even my $150 Brother desktop printer has PostScript.

Again, though, it's not Adobe PostScript. I think it's called "BrotherScript".

Apparently, Ricoh feels that if you are purchasing a higher end printer, that you would want the real deal, and go for the Adobe version.

Then again, who knows what kind of relationships printer manufacturers have with Adobe...that's not for us mere mortals to know.

Many current Ricoh do have a built in PostScript emulator. It does work on most things like PDF files. It gets a little wonky on most advance features.

[medallo]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

bad for ricoh.
Even minolta with the old bizhub c450 still prints well in mojave and with old driver.
A minolta if you care about customers.

[tonerhead]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

I agree.

Even my $150 Brother desktop printer has PostScript.

Again, though, it's not Adobe PostScript. I think it's called "BrotherScript".

Apparently, Ricoh feels that if you are purchasing a higher end printer, that you would want the real deal, and go for the Adobe version.

Then again, who knows what kind of relationships printer manufacturers have with Adobe...that's not for us mere mortals to know.




I have heard it the other way, Ricoh is not the problem, Adobe is. The home based printers maybe do 1k/year. The higher end printers 1M+/yr. Greed from Adobe makes Ricoh pay $$$ for the postscript capability. They know they have a captive market, ie, buy it or go without. Mac users get used to the little throw-away printers that work and blame the manufacturers when they should be blaming Adobe. I deal Ricoh and Kyocera and both have emulations now that for the most part work fine. Maybe the better question might be why is Apple so stubborn about surrendering to PCL? There are probably licensing restrictions there for Macs also.

[slimslob]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

Maybe the better question might be why is Apple so stubborn about surrendering to PCL? There are probably licensing restrictions there for Macs also.

As I said previously, MAC does have a generic PCL printer. I have used it a number when the customer does not want to buy the PS3 option to allow the one MAC computer in their office that only prints occasionally to use their Ricoh.

[guitar9199]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

There IS a workaround for PCL Printing on Macs, but we as a dealer don't support it.

This is ONE way to do it however.... Print to any PCL printer - Mac OS X Hints

...Here's another. Gutenprint for Mac OS X

As always...installing unofficial print drivers on any operating system can open you up to all sorts of liability issues. If the customer's Mac "breaks"....it's going to be YOUR fault. Doesn't matter if it is or isn't....they're going to blame you.

If the customer doesn't spring for the PostScript, I let them know what the workaround is and I let THEIR IT guy handle it.

[KenB]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

There IS a workaround for PCL Printing on Macs, but we as a dealer don't support it.

This is ONE way to do it however.... Print to any PCL printer - Mac OS X Hints

...Here's another. Gutenprint for Mac OS X

As always...installing unofficial print drivers on any operating system can open you up to all sorts of liability issues. If the customer's Mac "breaks"....it's going to be YOUR fault. Doesn't matter if it is or isn't....they're going to blame you.

If the customer doesn't spring for the PostScript, I let them know what the workaround is and I let THEIR IT guy handle it.

[guitar9199]

Re: ricoh does not care about drivers to print on mac

We had a "Dandy" one a few years back. Canon iR Advanced with a Fiery server on it, but it didn't support Cambria or Collibri fonts... so when the customer printed using them, it would substitute Wingdings!!

...customer called asking why their machine was printing in "Heiroglyphics"!!