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  • lorenrupe
    The Great Land

    50+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 57

    #1

    Document Management Software

    We are looking to partner with a Document Management Software vendor and I was just wondering what Systems that techs were using here and if they would recommend one or not recommend one! I am looking for something that is fairly easy to install set up and use and that we can sell with out costing the customer an arm & a leg!
    Loren Rupe
    Valley Business Machines Inc.
  • KenB
    Geek Extraordinaire

    2,500+ Posts
    • Dec 2007
    • 3945

    #2
    Which brand(s) of MFPs do you sell?

    Typically, most MFP manufacturers offer entry to mid-level DM solutions which may be available to you.

    There are several advantages in selling these products:

    1). Getting certified is easier than it is with a different vendor.

    2). The DM products integrate more closely with your MFPs.

    3). The profits margins are normally higher (always a crowd pleaser with your management).

    4). A lot of these products offer connectors to existing larger, more robust, enterprise wide solutions.
    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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    • tmaged
      Owner/Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Oct 2008
      • 1855

      #3
      The best & most economical is KyoCapture Express. Since you're a Kyocera dealer already, you know what the cost is. Include it with the lease of the MFP and it's not much over 60 months. We also use www.sentryfile.com as the back end software with KyoCapture. I do the installs so let me know if you have any questions.
      Hope that helps !
      -Tony
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      • lorenrupe
        The Great Land

        50+ Posts
        • Jan 2010
        • 57

        #4
        We are a Copystar dealer, and Kyocera does have KYOcapture but it is for routing the documents and not storing? Although I have not looked into much on it as it seemed very expensive and complicated!
        Loren Rupe
        Valley Business Machines Inc.

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        • Montana Tech
          Service Manager
          • Sep 2007
          • 20

          #5
          We've been looking at options for DM as well. Had presentations on DocRecord and Doculex, and will probably go with the latter.

          I was at a Kyocera dealer when Kyocapture first came out. At that time it really didn't suit the SMB market as we have here. I'm not familiar with the Express version though.
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          • lorenrupe
            The Great Land

            50+ Posts
            • Jan 2010
            • 57

            #6
            Thanks I will check out Doculex and see what it looks like! I couldnt help from notice your screen name as that is where my son is going to school right now! Did you graduate from there?
            Loren Rupe
            Valley Business Machines Inc.

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            • Montana Tech
              Service Manager
              • Sep 2007
              • 20

              #7
              *chuckles*

              I didn't realize the connection to Montana Tech till after I created this account. Then wondered if/when anyone would notice it. I didn't go there myself though. Got my degree down in Missouri.

              Another DM I've looked at is Ecopy. They have monthly technical webcasts that you can check out. There's one next Thursday, Jan. 28th at 11 EST. And if you call Doculex I'm sure they'd set up a Webinar demo for you.
              Did I have a dream, or did the dream have me?

              Kyocera-Mita/Konica-Minolta/Ricoh-Lanier
              HP/Lexmark/etc etc etc

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              • lorenrupe
                The Great Land

                50+ Posts
                • Jan 2010
                • 57

                #8
                Montana Tech

                Oh, sorry sometimes I guess I am a little slow! I get it now! lol
                Loren Rupe
                Valley Business Machines Inc.

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                • mansart
                  Senior Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  500+ Posts
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 852

                  #9
                  Loren,

                  I think I recall you said you were taking on Sharp? If this is the case you should look at Info Dynamics

                  They have a very cool product that integrates with the Sharp machine and Quickbooks. Essentially turning Quickbooks into an entry level doc management solution

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                  • nmfaxman
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1703

                    #10
                    A well thought out file system saves money. Windows can do a file search if you know how. Basic computer knowledge is all you need.
                    Why do they call it common sense?

                    If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                    • lorenrupe
                      The Great Land

                      50+ Posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 57

                      #11
                      My IT Director has been telling me that we just need to learn more about Sharepoint which comes with Windows and then we could set it up ouselves! That is one of the reasons we still our not using a Document Management Software!
                      Loren Rupe
                      Valley Business Machines Inc.

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                      • mansart
                        Senior Tech

                        Site Contributor
                        500+ Posts
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 852

                        #12
                        Sharepoint is highly customizable, so although it is included it requires a lot of customization to fit the client. So a doc. management system is like a pre fab home, and Sharepoint more like a custom built home

                        Info Dynamics also has connectors for Sharepoint

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                        • KenB
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                          • Dec 2007
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                          #13
                          Are you looking to sell a DM product, or use one in house?

                          Your last post implies the latter.
                          “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                          • lorenrupe
                            The Great Land

                            50+ Posts
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 57

                            #14
                            No we are looking to sell a DM product. In house our IT has set up a good file structure but one of our customers called to set up a meeting to talk about document storage as well as new machines so I am just trying to do some last minute research before our meeting. What I ment on my last post was if we were Sharepoint experts we could charge the customer to set up a custom storage and retrieval system without having to buy one so we could make a bigger profit margin!
                            Loren Rupe
                            Valley Business Machines Inc.

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                            • unisys12
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 490

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lorenrupe
                              No we are looking to sell a DM product. In house our IT has set up a good file structure but one of our customers called to set up a meeting to talk about document storage as well as new machines so I am just trying to do some last minute research before our meeting. What I ment on my last post was if we were Sharepoint experts we could charge the customer to set up a custom storage and retrieval system without having to buy one so we could make a bigger profit margin!
                              My take exactly! I threw this out to on our owners and he kicked back a day or two later saying that it was too expensive. Now, if you have a client that is running say 2003 or 08 server and they are not using Share Point (which comes as part of the server package), then you might be able to get your foot in the door by configuring it for them. That is if you have experience in setting up Share Point. Also, if your client is running 03 or 08 server, to any great degree, they probably already have a IT dept or dedicated IT staffing somewhere else and they might not take kindly to the idea of copier company coming into their network and meddling with things.

                              Although there are really some cool products out there, I have found that after talking with most people, what they really want is cetralized storage of documents. Their eyes start glazing over when you begin your speech about how using this software to tie into this and how then you can access it though a software program they already use.... ya ya ya...

                              For three or four hundred bucks, you can install a NAS (Network Attached Storage, check Tiger Direct for prices... Desktop Network Storage Enclosure at TigerDirect.com ) that has plenty of space for most any business. Treat it like a server by simply setting up users on the NAS, then point a scan to folder destination to that users folder on the NAS. Do this for each user. This is what I did at our shop. I have a copy of eCopy Paperworks at each workstation and have it set to monitor their folder. This way, if the sales person want one of our owners to see something that's not of Rushed Importance, they simply scan it to his folder. When he sits down at his desk, there will be an icon and ballon waiting there to let him know that he has a new document in his folder. He clicks the balloon and the scan in-box opens and there it is.

                              I would say that if an office does not have more than 5 to sometimes 10 people scanning, then they really don't need a full blown Document Management Solution. And this is where I tend to make my own rules too, cause I call DigiDocFlow or eCopy ShareScan "Document Management Solution" or "scanning solutions". When you start talking about DocuLex, Interwoven, Worldox, etc... those are what I refer as ECM's or "Enterprise Content Managment solutions".

                              I would have a nice long sit down with your client and find out exactly what they want to do before you pledge your dealership to a ECM company. Most require that you send at least one tech to their class and that can be very costly. I know eCopys class is a couple grand, you pay your own travel, lodging and food. Plus you have to agree to purchase at least one full blown Share Scan Suite, which is another 4 grand or so. Hince why I went to the Ricoh class.
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