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  • aab1
    End User
    • Oct 2010
    • 305

    #1

    Waste toner reuse?

    Firstly this forum was a real PITA to sign up to, it literally took over 20 times refilling the registration form (as it wipes it clean if you have an error) before it accepted all my entries. I'm sorry if I entered gibberish in some fields but after refilling the form 20 times I was about to smash the computer.

    I'm new here and it seems like this is a site for really big machines, I'm "only" using an $800 Canon machine. This is my first laser printer as I had used only business inkjets due to their dramatically lower cost per page than laser (and I'm of course keeping the inkjet for low cost printing).

    My question is, I refill my cartridges and empty the waste toner compartment, it seems like after emptying the waste about 10 times I'd have enough waste toner collected to refill the main container.

    Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this or would it work? Or what about putting the waste toner back in the main container and then filling the rest with new toner on every refill?

    Thanks
  • teckat
    Field Supervisor

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2010
    • 16084

    #2
    Originally posted by aab1
    Firstly this forum was a real PITA to sign up to, it literally took over 20 times refilling the registration form (as it wipes it clean if you have an error) before it accepted all my entries. I'm sorry if I entered gibberish in some fields but after refilling the form 20 times I was about to smash the computer.

    I'm new here and it seems like this is a site for really big machines, I'm "only" using an $800 Canon machine. This is my first laser printer as I had used only business inkjets due to their dramatically lower cost per page than laser (and I'm of course keeping the inkjet for low cost printing).

    My question is, I refill my cartridges and empty the waste toner compartment, it seems like after emptying the waste about 10 times I'd have enough waste toner collected to refill the main container.

    Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this or would it work? Or what about putting the waste toner back in the main container and then filling the rest with new toner on every refill?

    Thanks



    I have a suggestion where u can put your waste toner ????

    Guess Where ??



    You sound like the a jerk that would put their oil change back in their car.

    to ask a question like that, u should have not wasted time joining this Real Support Forum.
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    • jiongpao
      Trusted Tech
      • May 2009
      • 413

      #3
      i tried it in kip1880 and ir7200, the print out was quite dirty but not obvious. After 2 days it come out full page of small dot spots. At the end resulting drum cleaning and developer cleaning, oftenly drum cleaning will very harm the unit. Sometimes you will get blur copy resulting wasting tone of papers espeacially you are not aware when doing sets copy . Reuse waste toner its similar like:

      wasting paper + time of oftenly maintanance + low lifespent of hardware

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      • RRodgers
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jun 2009
        • 1950

        #4
        Yes please reuse it.... and here is my number for when it breaks so I can come and fix it for ya... I need the money.
        Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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        • kingpd@businessprints.net
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 919

          #5
          Originally posted by RRodgers
          Yes please reuse it.... and here is my number for when it breaks so I can come and fix it for ya... I need the money.
          Hehe. Do it.

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          • nick55
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Jun 2010
            • 51

            #6
            no question in re-cycling it.. u could re-cycle it until the black toner fades away and white copies comes out
            Originally posted by kingpd@businessprints.net
            Hehe. Do it.

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            • kuby
              Senior Tech

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2007
              • 1370

              #7
              Yea, I remember a school reusing the waste toner on a Ricoh I was servicing. Cut the PM life down to almost 1/2 of what it was suppose to be. I could not figure out what was going on. So one day I was out changing the developer out again and the secretary was giving me h**l over how bad the machine was, and as I was going to empty the waste bottle the secretary said wait, we put that back in the machine. "Got ya"

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              • blazebusiness
                SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 1250

                #8
                Originally posted by aab1
                I'm new here and it seems like this is a site for really big machines, I'm "only" using an $800 Canon machine. This is my first laser printer as I had used only business inkjets due to their dramatically lower cost per page than laser (and I'm of course keeping the inkjet for low cost printing).
                If you think an ink based machine has a lower per page cost than a toner based machine.....you couldn't be more wrong wrong wrong. And as for reusing waste toner......could it be any more obvious that this will only harm the equipment? I like oem cartridges but ....You'd be better off risking buying a cheap compatible toner to save money. At least that would be new toner......
                sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                • kingpd@businessprints.net
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 919

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kuby
                  Yea, I remember a school reusing the waste toner on a Ricoh I was servicing. Cut the PM life down to almost 1/2 of what it was suppose to be. I could not figure out what was going on. So one day I was out changing the developer out again and the secretary was giving me h**l over how bad the machine was, and as I was going to empty the waste bottle the secretary said wait, we put that back in the machine. "Got ya"
                  I always thought there should be a user training course in high school.

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                  • techjunkie

                    #10
                    It's a good thing you are messing with "only" $800 machines- you'll be replacing 'em early and often. I say go ahead and smash your computer.

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                    • aab1
                      End User
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 305

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blazebusiness
                      If you think an ink based machine has a lower per page cost than a toner based machine.....you couldn't be more wrong wrong wrong.
                      OK then, on my HP business inkjet I print real color pages (as in much more than 5% coverage) for 0.4 cents a page ($200 for 4 liters of ink, one per color, which makes 50 000 prints). Only consumable part is printheads which cost under $100 and last at least 50 000 prints.

                      Total cost per page for ink and consumable parts (excluding paper): 0.5 cents a page.

                      I've done 250 000 prints so far on my inkjet for under $1000 of ink.

                      I don't think you'll ever find a laser printer that can print anywhere near this cheap.

                      I don't get why so many people think laser costs less per page when it's far from the truth. My laser printer costs me 7 times more per page and that's with compatible cartridges and refilling them. Without that the laser would cost 80 times more per page.

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                      • kingpd@businessprints.net
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 919

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aab1
                        OK then, on my HP business inkjet I print real color pages (as in much more than 5% coverage) for 0.4 cents a page ($200 for 4 liters of ink, one per color, which makes 50 000 prints). Only consumable part is printheads which cost under $100 and last at least 50 000 prints.

                        Total cost per page for ink and consumable parts (excluding paper): 0.5 cents a page.

                        I've done 250 000 prints so far on my inkjet for under $1000 of ink.

                        I don't think you'll ever find a laser printer that can print anywhere near this cheap.

                        I don't get why so many people think laser costs less per page when it's far from the truth. My laser printer costs me 7 times more per page and that's with compatible cartridges and refilling them. Without that the laser would cost 80 times more per page.
                        Some of the Kodak and IBM inkjets get that low but they're like hundreds of thousands of dollars for the printers.

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                        • Brian8506
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1658

                          #13
                          Just think how low you can get te cost per page by re-using the waste toner. Key word being waste.

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                          • teckat
                            Field Supervisor

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                            10,000+ Posts
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 16084

                            #14
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                            • jrs157
                              Technician
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 22

                              #15
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