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  • 818tech
    Technician
    • Oct 2014
    • 24

    #1

    bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

    Everybody is new.

    Hey guys, I'm running out of Drum Dusting Powder. And i happen to lost the plastic bag where it said the model and part number.
    When i service/replace the Drum Cylinder, I'm using a Katun Brand Dusting Powder for my Konica Minolta/Imagistic Bizhub 600/IM-6020.

    I Just don't remember if it was the Kynar Dusting Powder or the Zinc Stearate Powder.
    I called my local suppliers, the seniors are gone and no one knows about the good stuff anymore.

    Anyone uses the same thing?
    or any inputs would be greatly appreciated...

    One local supplier advice me to use a yellow toner. any konica minolta will do?
    whats your say?

    and another local supplier told me to just use the black toner for that machine...
    reactions please?

    btw... both Katun powders are same use for some except.

    Kynar Dusting Powder #707200: Recommended for Lubricating OPCs, Selenium alloy and a-SI photoreceptors.
    Versus
    Zinc Stearate Dusting Powder #707321: Recommended for lubricating selenium alloy only.

    Questions is, What kind of Drum Cylinder is a DR-710 [(02XL) US] [(02XH) EU].

    Thanks for your time guys!
  • qbert69
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Mar 2013
    • 1152

    #2
    Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

    Originally posted by 818tech
    Everybody is new.

    Hey guys, I'm running out of Drum Dusting Powder. And i happen to lost the plastic bag where it said the model and part number.
    When i service/replace the Drum Cylinder, I'm using a Katun Brand Dusting Powder for my Konica Minolta/Imagistic Bizhub 600/IM-6020.

    I Just don't remember if it was the Kynar Dusting Powder or the Zinc Stearate Powder.
    I called my local suppliers, the seniors are gone and no one knows about the good stuff anymore.

    Anyone uses the same thing?
    or any inputs would be greatly appreciated...

    One local supplier advice me to use a yellow toner. any konica minolta will do?
    whats your say?

    and another local supplier told me to just use the black toner for that machine...
    reactions please?

    btw... both Katun powders are same use for some except.

    Kynar Dusting Powder #707200: Recommended for Lubricating OPCs, Selenium alloy and a-SI photoreceptors.
    Versus
    Zinc Stearate Dusting Powder #707321: Recommended for lubricating selenium alloy only.

    Questions is, What kind of Drum Cylinder is a DR-710 [(02XL) US] [(02XH) EU].

    Thanks for your time guys!
    I don't service Konica, but I service Ricoh/Savin. I've always used Yellow toner!...it seems to have the lightest/finest consistency for this purpose! Just make sure that it is JUST toner and not the monotoner that has the developer mixed in it, such as Kyocera does. The drums I have used this yellow toner on are the OPC (Organic Photo Conductor) drums! I will say that Kyocera Amorphous Silicon Drums (diamond tough!) beat the shiznit out of OPC drums!

    REACH FOR THE STARS!!!
    Konica Minolta Planetariums!
    https://www.konicaminolta.com/planet...gma/index.html

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    • Albonline
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Sep 2008
      • 1131

      #3
      Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

      Originally posted by 818tech
      Everybody is new.

      Hey guys, I'm running out of Drum Dusting Powder. And i happen to lost the plastic bag where it said the model and part number.
      When i service/replace the Drum Cylinder, I'm using a Katun Brand Dusting Powder for my Konica Minolta/Imagistic Bizhub 600/IM-6020.

      I Just don't remember if it was the Kynar Dusting Powder or the Zinc Stearate Powder.
      I called my local suppliers, the seniors are gone and no one knows about the good stuff anymore.

      Anyone uses the same thing?
      or any inputs would be greatly appreciated...

      One local supplier advice me to use a yellow toner. any konica minolta will do?
      whats your say?

      and another local supplier told me to just use the black toner for that machine...
      reactions please?

      btw... both Katun powders are same use for some except.

      Kynar Dusting Powder #707200: Recommended for Lubricating OPCs, Selenium alloy and a-SI photoreceptors.
      Versus
      Zinc Stearate Dusting Powder #707321: Recommended for lubricating selenium alloy only.

      Questions is, What kind of Drum Cylinder is a DR-710 [(02XL) US] [(02XH) EU].

      Thanks for your time guys!


      dr-710 is an opc type drum. toner works just fine but mess shows up more than the white powder.

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      • JrTech
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Jun 2013
        • 217

        #4
        Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

        I am not a big fan of PR but here is the link to the dusting powders. All of the part numbers you need are there to best choose what you need.

        Dusting Powder | Precision Roller

        Hope this helps

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        • allan
          RTFM!!

          5,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 5459

          #5
          Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

          You don't need to dust this drum.
          Use blade setting mode.

          Set the cleaning blade away from the drum.
          Run blade setting in service mode.
          Set blade against the drum.

          The machine covers the drum with an even layer of toner.
          Whatever

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          • Issac-brock
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Jan 2015
            • 61

            #6
            Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

            I agree with toner, the BH600 should have enough flying around the drum cavity to lube itself! Otherwise any powder should work I suppose. I don't have any but do have yellow toner that came with a BH1070 setup. good stuff.

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            • Copier Addict
              Aging Tech

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2013
              • 14331

              #7
              Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

              I remember while on training for this machine the instructor specifically said to use dusting powder. The one he told us to use is Kynar.

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              • allan
                RTFM!!

                5,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 5459

                #8
                Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                You are right. Pity on me.

                Guess the blades i get does have plenty of powder on them.
                I have been thru plenty of these drums always gives good yield.
                Drum yields 800K+ on an original and about 500K on good 3de party drums.

                Yellow toner it shall be.
                Whatever

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                • Issac-brock
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 61

                  #9
                  Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                  Originally posted by allan
                  You don't need to dust this drum.
                  Use blade setting mode.

                  Set the cleaning blade away from the drum.
                  Run blade setting in service mode.
                  Set blade against the drum.

                  The machine covers the drum with an even layer of toner.
                  Oh ya, been a while since I worked on this model, I recall the blade setting method now. Right you are, works well too.

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                  • Copier Addict
                    Aging Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 14331

                    #10
                    Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                    The service manual also specifies the use of setting powder on both the drum and cleaning blade before doing the blade setting in service mode.

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                    • copyman
                      Owner / Technician

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 4511

                      #11
                      Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                      Toner has always been fine to lube blade for me on that series, di-5510, biz 600/601, etc. As well as using the blade setting mode.


                      Issac-brock
                      your reply was funny

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                      • 818tech
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 24

                        #12
                        Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                        Thanks a bunch for all the input guys,
                        if my recollection is correct, i think i was using Kynar from Katun.

                        On the side note, who cares what the manual says if your a senior tech right? hehehehe...
                        but maybe for me i'll just stick to the manual for now...
                        that to coat the Toner Guide Recycling Roller, the Cleaning Blade and The Drum before running the Drum Pecu...

                        But i will keep in mind about the toners as substitute.

                        Thanks again everyone!!!

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                        • copyman
                          Owner / Technician

                          Site Contributor
                          2,500+ Posts
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 4511

                          #13
                          Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                          If I remember the cleaning roller & blade are loaded with setting powder right out of the box. Can't imagine how much more would be needed. That plus the setting mode has always worked for me. Never a blade flip.

                          If I remove the process unit to clean in between PM's, etc I always use a light coating of toner on the blade then do setting mode and rest of peculiarly adjustments.

                          I haven't used setting powder in several years. One less thing I have to breathe. Don't care what anyone says that shit can't be good for you. Besides I had enough white shit go up my nose back in my party days

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                          • blackcat4866
                            Master Of The Obvious

                            Site Contributor
                            10,000+ Posts
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 22917

                            #14
                            Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                            Not that they need much additional priming, but I got in the habit quite a long time ago to hand prime every blade with a scrape of toner from the side of the previous blade, then turn it by hand through a few revolutions, just in case, perchance you get distracted and forget to run the blade setting mode. I've had it happen a couple times when PMing a machine with help, that noone ends up priming the blade.

                            "Didn't you prime the blade?"
                            "No, I only installed the drum. You rebuilt the cleaning unit. You mean you didn't prime the drum?"

                            With all the toner blowing around in a 600 there won't be any lack of toner, that's for sure.

                            =^..^=
                            Last edited by blackcat4866; 09-18-2016, 11:28 PM.
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • Woxner
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 825

                              #15
                              Re: bizhub 600 Drum Dusting Powder

                              i never use powder on these. never have never will i just used the blade setting mode. if you use the wrong powder it will kill the dev

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