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  • CPM Mike
    Technician

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    • Nov 2015
    • 32
    #1

    [Misc] BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

    From time to time, I run carbonless paper through my BizHub C6500.

    When I do this, I have a lot of issues with jamming and get the J-1706 code if running Tray 1, 2 or 3.

    In the monster paper tray 4 and 5, it just jams on the first sheet.

    I posted about the J-1706 code earlier, but, I was wondering is there are any tips or tricks to working with carbonless on these machines.

    I always appreciate you replies!!!
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    • Synthohol
      Certified Konica Expert

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      5,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2016
      • 5727
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      Re: BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

      yes, NCR paper is not exactly certified to run at all on those however, there are these neoprene orange rollers that dont melt with the chemical on NCR paper.
      NCR has to be run from a PFC not the main body trays.
      someone here may have the part #s, ill see what i can find but those orange rollers are the only thing keeping that paper flowing.
      what PFC does the account have?

      btw, this is right from Konica...

      ID: KBA00801037
      Related Products:bizhub PRO 1600P,bizhub PRO 2000P,bizhub PRO 2500P,bizhub PRO C5500,bizhub PRO C5501,bizhub PRO C6500,bizhub PRO C6500P,bizhub PRO C6501,bizhub PRO C6501P
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      SPECIAL NOTE: Solution contribution by Gary Scimeca and Gregg Gallant, Production Print/SSD
      these are other rollers that may help...
      Reference
      The design and part number for feeding roller, paper feed roller, and the separating roller has changed since the release of the January 2007 Parts Guide Manual. The new part numbers are listed below:
      New Part Number Old Part Number ITEM
      A03X565200 55VAR75000 Feeding Roller
      A03X565300 55VAR74900 Paper Feed Roller
      A03X565400 55VAR74900 Separating Roller
      SPECIAL NOTE: Solution contribution by Jim Behrends, Production Print/SSD
      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
      The medication helps though...

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        • Synthohol
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          • Mar 2016
          • 5727
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          Re: BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

          Konica Minolta A08R-5621-01 (A08R562101) LCT Feed Roller, Genuine (M4029)
          A08R-5621-01
          thats one of the rollers, there are obviously 2 more but i cant find the # right now.
          hope someone has the other 2 numbers.
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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            • CPM Mike
              Technician

              Site Contributor
              • Nov 2015
              • 32
              #4
              Re: BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

              Thank you so much for this excellent information!

              I had replaced the rollers and drive clutches in trays 1, 2 and 3 the other day and came across these orange neoprene rollers A08R562201.

              I couldn't remember why I had them or what they were for and NOW I know why I bought them thanks to you.

              Its guys like you that make this such a great forum!

              Thanks again my friend!

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                • Synthohol
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                  • Mar 2016
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                  Re: BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

                  Glad to help!!
                  Just make sure your users know that the carbonless NCR paper is NOT supported and they will have to deal with occasional jams and prolly a CQ issue later on.
                  Nothing to be fixed or done.
                  It's like putting water in your gas tank. It's not supported but if it runs consider yourself lucky.
                  Have good one!!
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                    • CPM Mike
                      Technician

                      Site Contributor
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 32
                      #6
                      Re: BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

                      Originally posted by Synthohol
                      Glad to help!!
                      Just make sure your users know that the carbonless NCR paper is NOT supported and they will have to deal with occasional jams and prolly a CQ issue later on.
                      Nothing to be fixed or done.
                      It's like putting water in your gas tank. It's not supported but if it runs consider yourself lucky.
                      Have good one!!
                      You Rock!

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                        • Gavin_Parkes
                          #7
                          Re: BizHub C6500 - Carbonless Paper

                          We only deal with digital press and as such come across this quite a lot, I can only add to the suggestion of using the neoprene rollers.
                          and if the customer is using A4 or SRA4 then set to SEF.

                          As stated elsewhere unfortunately NCR is unsupported stock.

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