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  • Kenny
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    • Jun 2009
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    #1

    Konica Minolta C360i - Quality issue

    Hi guys,

    we have a Konica Minolta C360i that was initially having an issue with a yellow background. On site we noticed the yellow TCR was 0.0 so we have checked the developing unit and it seems it has turned black? so we have replaced the yellow drum and developing unit but the issue remains, the yellow TCR goes from 6.6 to 2.4 then back to 6.6 after doing some prints. We have checked the yellow developing unit again and the new one has turned black also.

    on the transfer belt it seems the yellow has covered the belt fully and seem to have taken all the yellow developer out of the developing unit.

    the machine has various P Codes (see attached)​ P CODES.docx Halftones.pdf

    The machines is on the latest firmware and below are the meters

    Total: 35771
    Black: 9146
    Colour: 26625

    we are potentially thinking it is down to the HV BOARD but would like to here some suggestions,
  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
    • 5734

    #2
    id try a toner add until its even with the others then do a background data reset and stabilize and perform all 9 or 12 gradation adjustments.
    could be toner chute is clogged or not replenishing toner.
    not discarding a possible HV issue but check the physical first
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • avecosat
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      • Jun 2012
      • 303

      #3
      Hello, I had the same problem but I only changed the yellow development unit two months ago and the problem has not returned. As you say, the unit turns black, the value becomes 0 and the unit code appears and constantly resets, but in my case after changing the unit the problem has been resolved.

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      • tsbservice
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        • May 2007
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        #4
        It can be infamous toner hopper problem. Did you remove and check it?
        What areYellow drum voltages (those are in Table number - Vg and Vdc)?
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        • Kenny
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          #5
          Originally posted by tsbservice
          yellow drum voltages please(those are in table number - vg and vdc).
          vdc-c 328
          vdc-m 393
          vdc-y 800
          vdc-k 295

          vg-c 368
          vg-m 443
          vg-y 830
          vg-k 365

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          • tsbservice
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            • May 2007
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            #6
            Originally posted by Kenny

            vdc-c 328
            vdc-m 393
            vdc-y 800
            vdc-k 295

            vg-c 368
            vg-m 443
            vg-y 830
            vg-k 365
            Yellow are way off as IDC judged the image density as low...but first check toner hopper.
            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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            • copier tech
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              • Jan 2014
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              #7
              We have a had a few HV boards fail on the C250i series.

              After you replaced the yellow dev & image units did the device work ok initially ? if yes then you have a toner supply issue.
              If after replacing the yellow IU & dev units the print quality issue was the same immediately after then I would look at replacing the HV board.
              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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              • Kenny
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                • Jun 2009
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                #8
                Originally posted by copier tech
                We have a had a few HV boards fail on the C250i series.

                After you replaced the yellow dev & image units did the device work ok initially ? if yes then you have a toner supply issue.
                If after replacing the yellow IU & dev units the print quality issue was the same immediately after then I would look at replacing the HV board.
                yes the issue was the exact same, we will try your suggestions and update you guys, thank you

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                • Andrey51
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2024
                  • 6

                  #9
                  I had a case when the developer unit did not fill with toner. In my case the sensor in the hopper was dirty and the machine thought that the hopper was full of toner and did not start the tube rotation. Cleaning the sensor helped.

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                  • barber782
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                    • Aug 2011
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                    #10
                    Are you modifying the black drums to colour drums by any chance?

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                    • Kenny
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                      • Jun 2009
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                      #11
                      Hi guys,

                      so we have been to site and replaced the HV BOARD and HOPPER unit and a new Y Dev unit but it has once again turned black,

                      the HV board did fix the background issue

                      the hopper unit fixed the TCR issue

                      but pulled the DV unit out and its done the same

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                      • Kenny
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                        • Jun 2009
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                        #12
                        HI guys,

                        just an update it seems the machine is now up and running,

                        ran 255 full bleed halftones on the yellow and its working again, thank you for your suggestions

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