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  • brent
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    df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

    wondering if another document feeder will work on a konica minolta bizhub 454e the df 701 took a dive. and it came standard on that but you can
    change in the setting from a single scan to dual scan doc feeder.. remove theboard that the connector from the feeder goes into or
    are we stuck with just one feeder? thanks much

    brent
  • patrickjlc
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    Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

    You can use another, either the double scan or the basic one. By basic I mean the one that doesn't have the opening door on the white platen.
    It will work just fine.

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    • brent
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      Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

      ok what model doc feeder would work? I was looking for the model number just to see if I had one.. I was told a feeder off a 364 would work but the plug
      is wrong and it wont work.

      thanks brent

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      • patrickjlc
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        Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

        From a 284e, 364e, i use both and they are interchangeable.

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        • copyman
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          Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

          Originally posted by patrickjlc
          From a 284e, 364e, i use both and they are interchangeable.

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          The two ADF's used on the "4" series are the DF624, & DF701 (dual scan). I know the DF701 came standard on the Biz 454/554 & C454/C554 models. I've never seen a DF624 on one of these models. Next time I service one going to check service mode to see if same setting to select what feeder like the 224/284/364 color & B&W models as the ADF's were an option and not standard. I wouldn't think a DF624 would work but learn something new every day!

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          • brent
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            Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

            Originally posted by patrickjlc
            From a 284e, 364e, i use both and they are interchangeable.

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            • Gift
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              Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

              I had to downgade a DF once because the customer complained about different image quality between 1st and 2nd (duplex) side due to CCD vs CIS technology. Wasn't a problem.

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              • allan
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                Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e


                Don't think you would need to remove the dual side scan board if its set to single side.
                Whatever

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                • patrickjlc
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                  Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                  I leave the dual scan board in the machine, just swap the DF.

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                  • patrickjlc
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                    Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                    Originally posted by Gift
                    I had to downgade a DF once because the customer complained about different image quality between 1st and 2nd (duplex) side due to CCD vs CIS technology. Wasn't a problem.
                    That is how I found out too, my customer broke the dual scan (dont know how) and only thing I had at the moment of the call was a 364e with the single scan DF, bolted it in, plug in and it work. It has been on that office for a year, on a 454e. Its a immigration office so they do almost 20 thousand scans per month.

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                    • copyman
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                      Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                      Originally posted by patrickjlc
                      That is how I found out too, my customer broke the dual scan (dont know how) and only thing I had at the moment of the call was a 364e with the single scan DF, bolted it in, plug in and it work. It has been on that office for a year, on a 454e. Its a immigration office so they do almost 20 thousand scans per month.

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                      Good to hear the DF624 will definitely work on the 45 & 55 ppm models. You don't mention if you had to change the doc feeder model # in service mode?

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                      • patrickjlc
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                        Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                        No, I just swapped it.

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                        • patrickjlc
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                          Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                          Originally posted by copyman
                          Good to hear the DF624 will definitely work on the 45 & 55 ppm models. You don't mention if you had to change the doc feeder model # in service mode?
                          No, all settings I left like they were.

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                          • copyman
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                            Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                            Originally posted by patrickjlc
                            No, all settings I left like they were.

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                            Interesting because if I remember correctly when I left DF701 unplugged by accident it would throw ADF code. I thought this was from machine recognizing the DF701 interface board still being installed but no feeder.

                            I do know on the 22-36 ppm models you need to set the correct feeder in service mode or it will throw code. Had this happen many times.

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                            • patrickjlc
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                              Re: df 701 compatability question konica minolta bizhub 454e

                              Here a df 624 and a 701 both are interchangeable. One has two wires and the other just one.

                              I have both on 284e, 364e, and 454e just plug and play.

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