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  • brent
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    konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

    like stated above.. the panel indicates they need toners and they just don't I am using genuine toner as well not refills or aftermarket
    any thoughts? thanks so much

    brent
  • Brad6784
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    • brent
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      Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

      this machine was just fine until we moved it. lol I will check this out.. I just had to do a c364e hopper a couple weeks ago it took a llittle time for sure but it was the problem was the toner hopper as well.. this machine is new enough that I don' thave a spare hopper around like the c364 which I have lots of used parts for

      brent

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      • femaster
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        Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

        There are known issues with the toner units on these models. If you have access to the KM knowledge base, look up KBA00074915 and KBA00052227. I'll copy the text below, but one of them has a PDF attachment that I'm not able to include at the moment.

        ID: KBA00074915
        Related Products:bizhub C250i,bizhub 300i,bizhub 360i,bizhub 450i,bizhub 550i,bizhub 650i,bizhub 750i,bizhub C300i,bizhub C360i,bizhub C450i,bizhub C550i,bizhub C650i,bizhub C750i

        Problem
        Low TCR, broken toner drive, premature replace toner messages.

        Solution
        CAUSE: The detecting plate coming off of its hinge pin. The issue is currently being investigated by Konica Minolta Incorporated (KMI) R&D, and a permanent solution will be provided once that investigation is completed.

        SOLUTION: Please refer to the attached documented procedure.

        --------------------------

        ID: KBA00052227
        Related Products:bizhub C250i,bizhub C300i,bizhub C360i,MFX-C2595i,MFX-C3095i,MFX-C3695i

        Problem
        "Toner low" message will occur even if the toner bottle is new or full.

        Solution
        CAUSE: The two sided tape and sponge is out of position causing the inner shutter to not open properly

        SOLUTION: Press the upper part of the inner shutter if the shutter does not open properly cut the sponge/ two sided tape back

        Note: Open a ticket with the Contact Support Center (CSC) at 1-800-825-5664 if you have an affected toner cartridge and provide the following information.
        • Provide the Lot Numbers to identify toner cartridges affected:
        • The first four digits are the production date, the sixth digit is the color data(C/Y/M/K) Example(9403AMD9) September 4th 2003 Magenta toner
        A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
        My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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        • brent
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          Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

          thank you I am a dealer but horrible at reading the knowledge base. I will certainl y do that.. thank you so much
          brent

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          • copier tech
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            • Jan 2014
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            Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

            Originally posted by brent
            like stated above.. the panel indicates they need toners and they just don't I am using genuine toner as well not refills or aftermarket
            any thoughts? thanks so much

            brent

            Use engine SW 31, 32, 33, 34 to reset the toner counts this will reset the 'gas gauge' to full.

            Next restart & perform a colour print run. Check the TCR levels stay around 6.5%

            As always keep the firmware at the latest.



            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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            • femaster
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              Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

              Originally posted by brent
              thank you I am a dealer but horrible at reading the knowledge base. I will certainl y do that.. thank you so much
              brent
              I don't blame you much for that, The knowledge base has always been a pain to find anything. It has gotten better it seems, but it's still far more difficult than it should be to find things in it.
              A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
              My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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              • tsbservice
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                Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                Originally posted by femaster
                I don't blame you much for that, The knowledge base has always been a pain to find anything. It has gotten better it seems, but it's still far more difficult than it should be to find things in it.
                Lol, your knowledge base is super compared to what we have.
                Especially AAS is top notch.
                A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                • brent
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                  Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                  lol try calling in a ticket in the old days it was so painful. and somethimes they told me they never heard of the problem before lol I do believe one of the techs was malcolm years ago
                  Originally posted by femaster
                  I don't blame you much for that, The knowledge base has always been a pain to find anything. It has gotten better it seems, but it's still far more difficult than it should be to find things in it.

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                  • brent
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                    Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                    femaster.. question for you are you talking about the toner bottle shutter or the shutter in the toner hopper in the copier? the 2 toners it is calling for once I cremove the bottle and in the machine I move the shutter they are both packed full with toner.. interesting just was curious thank you so much


                    Originally posted by femaster
                    There are known issues with the toner units on these models. If you have access to the KM knowledge base, look up KBA00074915 and KBA00052227. I'll copy the text below, but one of them has a PDF attachment that I'm not able to include at the moment.

                    ID: KBA00074915
                    Related Products:bizhub C250i,bizhub 300i,bizhub 360i,bizhub 450i,bizhub 550i,bizhub 650i,bizhub 750i,bizhub C300i,bizhub C360i,bizhub C450i,bizhub C550i,bizhub C650i,bizhub C750i

                    Problem
                    Low TCR, broken toner drive, premature replace toner messages.

                    Solution
                    CAUSE: The detecting plate coming off of its hinge pin. The issue is currently being investigated by Konica Minolta Incorporated (KMI) R&D, and a permanent solution will be provided once that investigation is completed.

                    SOLUTION: Please refer to the attached documented procedure.

                    --------------------------

                    ID: KBA00052227
                    Related Products:bizhub C250i,bizhub C300i,bizhub C360i,MFX-C2595i,MFX-C3095i,MFX-C3695i

                    Problem
                    "Toner low" message will occur even if the toner bottle is new or full.

                    Solution
                    CAUSE: The two sided tape and sponge is out of position causing the inner shutter to not open properly

                    SOLUTION: Press the upper part of the inner shutter if the shutter does not open properly cut the sponge/ two sided tape back

                    Note: Open a ticket with the Contact Support Center (CSC) at 1-800-825-5664 if you have an affected toner cartridge and provide the following information.
                    • Provide the Lot Numbers to identify toner cartridges affected:
                    • The first four digits are the production date, the sixth digit is the color data(C/Y/M/K) Example(9403AMD9) September 4th 2003 Magenta toner

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                    • Synthohol
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                      • Mar 2016
                      • 5727

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                      Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                      the corrugated tube that delivers toner to the dv unit also gets clogged.
                      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                      The medication helps though...

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                      • Ziggy
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                        • Feb 2018
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                        Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                        Originally posted by femaster
                        There are known issues with the toner units on these models. If you have access to the KM knowledge base, look up KBA00074915 and KBA00052227. I'll copy the text below, but one of them has a PDF attachment that I'm not able to include at the moment.

                        ID: KBA00074915
                        Related Products:bizhub C250i,bizhub 300i,bizhub 360i,bizhub 450i,bizhub 550i,bizhub 650i,bizhub 750i,bizhub C300i,bizhub C360i,bizhub C450i,bizhub C550i,bizhub C650i,bizhub C750i

                        Problem
                        Low TCR, broken toner drive, premature replace toner messages.

                        Solution
                        CAUSE: The detecting plate coming off of its hinge pin. The issue is currently being investigated by Konica Minolta Incorporated (KMI) R&D, and a permanent solution will be provided once that investigation is completed.

                        SOLUTION: Please refer to the attached documented procedure.

                        --------------------------

                        ID: KBA00052227
                        Related Products:bizhub C250i,bizhub C300i,bizhub C360i,MFX-C2595i,MFX-C3095i,MFX-C3695i

                        Problem
                        "Toner low" message will occur even if the toner bottle is new or full.

                        Solution
                        CAUSE: The two sided tape and sponge is out of position causing the inner shutter to not open properly

                        SOLUTION: Press the upper part of the inner shutter if the shutter does not open properly cut the sponge/ two sided tape back

                        Note: Open a ticket with the Contact Support Center (CSC) at 1-800-825-5664 if you have an affected toner cartridge and provide the following information.
                        • Provide the Lot Numbers to identify toner cartridges affected:
                        • The first four digits are the production date, the sixth digit is the color data(C/Y/M/K) Example(9403AMD9) September 4th 2003 Magenta toner

                        Attached is the pdf that is mentioned in KBA00074915
                        Attached Files

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                        • occus
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                          • Jul 2013
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                          Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                          Had only 2 Machines in 2020 with TRC low Sub Hopper Assy problems.

                          Since half a year I had about 6 cases on C250i-C650i where the toner bottle was not recognized as new. The toner indicator remained at 0. I think it is the Chip or contact.
                          The TCR value was always ok, so I did a reset and the problem was solved. Unfortunately it was not possible for me to check if the chip increased the counter in Service Mode Counter Parts Life.

                          If someone has such a case and it is the first toner that needs to be replaced then he should please check the counter. Then you would know the problem is the chip .
                          After Initial Setup the counter stays on 1! If you replace your first toner ist should stay on 2.
                          Last edited by occus; 02-17-2023, 11:46 AM.

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                          • Kenny
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                            • Jun 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                            i had a cyan toner set issue on a C360i, had to do the attached to resolve KOM191501-2.pdf

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                            • femaster
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                              • May 2011
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                              #15
                              Re: konica minolta c300i replace toner c and y indicators on

                              Originally posted by brent
                              femaster.. question for you are you talking about the toner bottle shutter or the shutter in the toner hopper in the copier? the 2 toners it is calling for once I cremove the bottle and in the machine I move the shutter they are both packed full with toner.. interesting just was curious thank you so much
                              Sorry for the late reply, been a few days since I've been here. Unfortunately I've not had to deal with this situation as of yet, so I can only speculate on what they mean in the bulletin. After re-reading the bulletin, it really sounds like it could be either shutter, they were clear as mud in their description. My best educated guess would be the shutter on the toner bottle only because near the end they talk about having "an affected toner cartridge". Unfortunately that is only a guess on my part.
                              A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                              My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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