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  • Rad01
    Tech Manager
    • May 2016
    • 27

    #1

    [Misc] Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

    Hey guys

    So over the past few months I've been getting this weird issue at a client that has 3 x BH 300i devices.
    Note:
    These devices has been running at the client for around 3 maybe 4 years without any major issues reported and no scan to email issues until this arose.
    All devices are f/w up to latest avail version (N4) and func. ver. to corresponding level. devices are configured to scan via Office365. Client has an on-site IT guy who is very jacked up. One device has a meter of around 250k, the other is sitting on 205k and the last one is on 185K.

    A couple of months ago they logged a call for scan to email not working. started off with when scanning 1 page it will work but scanning multiple pages it wouldn't work. then it started failing after every scan sent.

    Bare in mind that it was only happening on 1 of their devices which tells me its then a config issue on that specific device yeah?
    Cool... Head out check device can't find any issues, everything is configured identical to that of the other 2 x working devices.

    After all the basics were checked and ruled out i then went ahead and reconfigured the device using known working smtp creds to the likes of Gmail, my company domain and another domain we use for clients where we don't have access to an IT guy/their email settings.
    and the result was....nothing worked

    I then ran a network initialize/clear and reconfigured smtp to that of Gmail just to rule out the clients mail server. the device then worked YAY!!
    BUT 3 days later the same thing happened on the same device.

    Now I'm thinking its most def a device issue and here on my side of the globe we have this lovely thing called "loadshedding" where our electricity supply is cut at specific/scheduled times in an effort to minimize the strain on the grid. So I'm thinking this must be a board starting to flake.
    Anyhow, the call came through late on a Friday afternoon and client urgently needed to scan/send docs before COB so i then ran a complete system initialize set back to factory and reconfigured everything using a network backup from one of the working devices using the clients mail server settings and all worked fine.

    Two months went by and all was fine. until the i got the call again on a Friday afternoon with the same issue but this time on one of the other devices.
    Did exactly what i did on the last device full system init and clear and all that fun stuff, reconfigure this device using backup from the other working machine to get clients mail server settings and boom all worked fine.

    Low and behold, exactly a month later (yesterday) i get a call from the client saying their 3rd device is now doing exactly what the previous devices did.

    So (touch wood) the other two devices are still running fine since i did the full system init and clear etc but still baffled as to what exactly is causing this issue.
    3 x devices all giving the same issue in a span of a few months.

    Thought maybe someone here ran into something odd like tis before on these models.
  • tsbservice
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    • May 2007
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    #2
    Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

    What's the network error code when then fail?
    Any errant codes in service call history?
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    • Max
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      500+ Posts
      • Oct 2011
      • 544

      #3
      Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

      There is a later firmware Q6. Try that as well. However, there is an issue with it apparently. The group sent email not working. Single and multiple are OK.

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      • Ziggy
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        • Feb 2018
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        Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

        you mentioned power being cut off at different times. These machines are very finicky when it comes to power outages. If this is just random times then you stand a chance of boards failing. If you know when the power is going to be shut off I would recommend turning machine off before power is cut off.

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        • rrrohan
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          • Sep 2011
          • 1977

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          Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

          Originally posted by Markks
          you mentioned power being cut off at different times. These machines are very finicky when it comes to power outages. If this is just random times then you stand a chance of boards failing. If you know when the power is going to be shut off I would recommend turning machine off before power is cut off.
          i usually just hotspot from phone to laptop then share the internet and plug copier into my laptop. re do the IP config for DNS and gateway and all that then do a test scan

          if it works on my connection on not the customer LAN i can pass it to IT and walk away

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          • Kenny
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            • Jun 2009
            • 515

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            Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

            probably already been checked but had a similar issue with a Konica C658 sending one scan to email then failing for the rest,

            turned out to be because of an IP conflict with the machine and one of users PC's

            changed the machines IP and all worked fine!

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            • Rewind!
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              Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

              Create and set a self signed certificate in the machine. Set the TLS versions to 1.2 and give it a go. Also confirm that your time and date are correct. Ive had intermittent problems with O365/M365 and beyond it being a file size attachment error this mostly resolves the problems with sending email scans.

              JC

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              • Rad01
                Tech Manager
                • May 2016
                • 27

                #8
                Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

                Originally posted by tsbservice
                What's the network error code when then fail?
                Any errant codes in service call history?


                Appologies for the delay on getting back to this. Unfortunately, i don't have access to the scan log errors as i posted this before attending and the last time it happened was a while ago so can't really recall the errors in log but can confirm that when going into detail of error it showed server connection type error(or something along those lines) That doesn't help much i know. No other major issues or errors reported back on history so not quite sure what the cause may be.

                Touching on a post further up, yes power outages are scheduled which means we're well aware of when the outages will occur and for how long. This particular client assures me that they do properly Power down their devices. A few months ago i cleared the counters after some pm were done and can confirm that there counter for power loss remained on 0.
                (i intentionally did that to checkup at later stage)

                There's also another post relating to checking the device on another known working network. To answer that question... Yes i have tried this before any work was done but still wasn't able to scan.
                (this test was done on my very first visit but neglected to add it to my OP ss it was already such a long write up)

                I'll kook into the Q version f/w.

                Anyways client is up and running since the day after initial post.
                Work done was backup address book Admin settings, complete device initialize etc, format ssd etc, reconfigure initial setup, import saved data n manually setup scan to email... All working fine since but pretty the issue will rear its ugly head again.

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                • rrrohan
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                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1977

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                  Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

                  Originally posted by Kenny
                  probably already been checked but had a similar issue with a Konica C658 sending one scan to email then failing for the rest,

                  turned out to be because of an IP conflict with the machine and one of users PC's

                  changed the machines IP and all worked fine!
                  normally the copier would be smart enough to warn on screen about IP conflicts

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                  • Rad01
                    Tech Manager
                    • May 2016
                    • 27

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

                    Originally posted by Rewind!
                    Create and set a self signed certificate in the machine. Set the TLS versions to 1.2 and give it a go. Also confirm that your time and date are correct. Ive had intermittent problems with O365/M365 and beyond it being a file size attachment error this mostly resolves the problems with sending email scans.

                    JC
                    Hey, thanks for all the replies but this was done when call was initially logged with me. Called up client logged in remotely checked/did exactly that and didn't yield any positive results. Then went out on-site and performed additional tests/troubleshooting etc

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                    • Rad01
                      Tech Manager
                      • May 2016
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub 300i - Scan to email suddenly stops working

                      Originally posted by Kenny
                      probably already been checked but had a similar issue with a Konica C658 sending one scan to email then failing for the rest,

                      turned out to be because of an IP conflict with the machine and one of users PC's

                      changed the machines IP and all worked fine!


                      Yeah thought it might be something simple like that but the IP is well outside of DHCP scope and reserved to mac. Their IT guy confirmed checking basics on his end prior to logging the call. Issue remained even if configured to a completely different network altogether.

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