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  • copiertec
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    Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

    I have a Kyocera FS-3640MFP with a continual "adding toner" message, I removed the right cover and everything appears to be in place all the motors and gears seem to be turning. To rule out a maintenance kit, I took the developer unit and drum unit and swapped them into a 3540MFP and they work ( a little over-toned),however, no adding toner message. I took the FS-3540mfp drum and developing units and placed them into the FS-3640mfp and the continual "adding toner" message is on the LCD screen. The firmware I believe is current 0514 and no error massages. I did not see any tech bulletins. Any ideas?
    Last edited by copiertec; 03-15-2017, 12:19 AM.
  • copiertec
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    Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

    I brought it back to the shop and watched it for about 30 min stuck in that "adding toner" cycle. It basically fills the toner waste bottle while in the process. I'm thinking possibly main board issue.

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    • tmaged
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      Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

      Is the drum coated in toner ? That ususally indicates some type of high voltage arcing. I was going to suggest looking at U130, but it doesn't look like it has that maintenance item.
      Hope that helps !
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      • copiertec
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        Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

        The drum looks good, I turn off the mfp, pull out the drum unit and it looks good, not covered in toner. The drum only has 24k on it. I tried a drum and developer refresh to no avail, No 130.

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        • mita
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          #5
          Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

          Don't know if this is what you have but it may help QA B379-2MC-0003. if you have access to the kda service portal.

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          • copiertec
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            Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

            Originally posted by mita
            Don't know if this is what you have but it may help QA B379-2MC-0003. if you have access to the kda service portal.
            My company has access to KDAconnect and can't find that bulletin under the FS-3640MFP. What does it pertain to?

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            • mita
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              • copiertec
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                Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                What measure is taken to change the toner level detection? It talks about it in your post, however, it does not explain how to change the toner level detection.

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                • mita
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                  Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                  Sorry I should have said it is a firmware update to correct the issue

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                  • copiertec
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                    Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                    NP, I believe it has the latest firmware 0514. I tried a main board swap, however, the EPROM is soldered on the board and I get 180 error code.

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                    • darry1322
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                      #11
                      Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                      After changing the main board you'll get the C0180 code. Go into MM004 to clear the 0180 code.

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                      • copiertec
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                        Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                        After replacing Main Board we still have the issue. Back to the drawing board.

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                        • copiertec
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                          Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                          Retracing all of my steps, I believe the issue started after performing U002 (resetting factory default data). I have used this mode on other models and have not had any issues. I'm wondering if it lost rom data from the factory and has no reference point for toner?

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                          • Kyo fan
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                            Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                            It will do the toner initial adding if you performed U002. You will have to wait for it to finish. There is one more thing to be checked in this case. That's the developer drive gear which breaks every now and then:

                            dev_drive_gear.jpg

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                            • copiertec
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                              Re: Kyocera FS-3640MFP continual adding toner message

                              Originally posted by Kyo fan
                              It will do the toner initial adding if you performed U002. You will have to wait for it to finish. There is one more thing to be checked in this case. That's the developer drive gear which breaks every now and then:

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]35962[/ATTACH]
                              You were spot on Kyo fan... thank you. I let it run and it came to ready.

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