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  • daveyball
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • May 2009
    • 314

    #1

    Edge to Edge printing

    Any one know how to do edge to edge printing on the new Kyocera Colour MFP's, the customer is prepared for the extra toner costs. By default the machine is putting a 4mm border all the waty around, they would likt it redusec to say 2mm or non at all. I have tried to fool it by telling it it's oversize A4, A3 etc, and adjusting the margins in service mode.
  • inutelkamo
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jul 2011
    • 143

    #2
    Re: Edge to Edge printing

    i think.. its not possible for laser printers...

    why??

    your paper might jam..

    separation claws may got problem separating your paper from the fixing roller...

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    • Metalvoc
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • Sep 2008
      • 155

      #3
      Re: Edge to Edge printing

      Originally posted by inutelkamo
      i think.. its not possible for laser printers...
      Agreed. There are several reasons a laser printer needs a margin on the page. I have worked with some print shops that do full bleed on laser printers, but they print on 12x18 paper and trim the edges.

      Adjusting your margins so that the print reaches the very edge of the paper will not only create quality issues near the margins, but will likely cause mechanical problems as well.
      I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up - Mark Twain

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      • JimHegs
        This Space For Rent

        VIP Subscriber
        100+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 108

        #4
        Re: Edge to Edge printing

        "full bleed" printing is done by printing an 11.25" x 17.25" image on some 12 x 18 paper and then trimming the excess. The Kyoshiba's and newest TASKalfa color can handle the 12x18 paper.
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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22916

          #5
          Re: Edge to Edge printing

          Yeah davey, you've got to trim to get full bleed. Laser printers of all sorts require voids. There's no way around it. And even if you do find a way to remove the voids, you'll get fuser jams like crazy.

          You'll only make your life more of a living hell. An endless cycle of return calls for fuser jams. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • RRodgers
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Jun 2009
            • 1950

            #6
            Re: Edge to Edge printing

            Originally posted by daveyball
            Any one know how to do edge to edge printing on the new Kyocera Colour MFP's, the customer is prepared for the extra toner costs. By default the machine is putting a 4mm border all the waty around, they would likt it redusec to say 2mm or non at all. I have tried to fool it by telling it it's oversize A4, A3 etc, and adjusting the margins in service mode.
            Easy fix,
            Just print on the next size paper up and cut it down. THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE. Wanna get around the digital boarder... fine... don't piss and moan when you get dirty copies.
            Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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            • flimmer
              Technician
              • Jun 2008
              • 30

              #7
              Re: Edge to Edge printing

              You must reduse printermargings by adjusting Laser margin in the servicemode if its a MFP

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              • Eric1968
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2009
                • 2459

                #8
                Re: Edge to Edge printing

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                Yeah davey, you've got to trim to get full bleed. Laser printers of all sorts require voids. There's no way around it. And even if you do find a way to remove the voids, you'll get fuser jams like crazy.

                You'll only make your life more of a living hell. An endless cycle of return calls for fuser jams. =^..^=
                ... and a lot of toner leaking in the machine.

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                • expom
                  44 Years in the game
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 22

                  #9
                  Re: Edge to Edge printing

                  Originally posted by blackcat4866
                  Yeah davey, you've got to trim to get full bleed. Laser printers of all sorts require voids. There's no way around it. And even if you do find a way to remove the voids, you'll get fuser jams like crazy.

                  You'll only make your life more of a living hell. An endless cycle of return calls for fuser jams. =^..^=
                  Hi Blackcat, i have the problem on a TASKalfa 300ci that does not have a void lead edge on print only causing fuser jams.(copy is fine).Any ideas on how to increase the void from nothing to 3-4m? Registration is fine.

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                  • correo.tony
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 72

                    #10
                    Re: Edge to Edge printing

                    Enter in Service Mode with 10871087 and configure margins in SIM 402, lead margin, etc....

                    Bye !!

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22916

                      #11
                      Re: Edge to Edge printing

                      Originally posted by correo.tony
                      Enter in Service Mode with 10871087 and configure margins in SIM 402, lead margin, etc....

                      Bye !!
                      I posted this same answer in your other thread. And I'm pleased that you're searching.

                      There is another possibility though. Another tech may have thought he was doing the customer a favor, and found a way to change this value in FRPO settings. Specifically: FRPO A1, A2, A3, A4 should all be zero. And FRPO D1 should be zero.
                      None of these values are listed on the service status page, so it's hard to say if the values are ignored, or just not displayed.

                      You can just reset these values by sending:
                      !R! FRPO A1,0; FRPO A2,0; FRPO A3,0; FRPO A4,0; FRPO D1,0;EXIT;

                      Or to factory reset all the FRPO settings you can send: !R! FRPO INIT;EXIT;

                      As a final last resort you can try an engine reset: !R! EGRE; EXIT;
                      That should keep you busy for a while. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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