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  • keithxxiii
    Just a tech

    250+ Posts
    • Nov 2014
    • 469

    #1

    SC 672

    Hello to all gurus out there,

    I noticed a number of SC672-XX calls on the field. Ricoh has a procedure on the service manual how to diagnose it but everything points out to the controller.
    Is there a way to check which component on the controller board becomes faulty? I would like to know if we can take those faulty boards and replace those faulty chips would cost us less rather that requesting for a bulk of stocks.

    TIA
    Aye! Cut the crap
  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 3869

    #2
    Re: SC 672

    In the service manual there are post LED codes that tell you what went wrong with the controller. That can give a PCB repairer of what to replace. Bear in mind, a good chunk of SC672 codes can also be caused by the HDD.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • DRichard
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • May 2008
      • 482

      #3
      Re: SC 672

      Originally posted by keithxxiii
      Hello to all gurus out there,

      I noticed a number of SC672-XX calls on the field. Ricoh has a procedure on the service manual how to diagnose it but everything points out to the controller.
      Is there a way to check which component on the controller board becomes faulty? I would like to know if we can take those faulty boards and replace those faulty chips would cost us less rather that requesting for a bulk of stocks.

      TIA
      FYI... a bit of a side note concerning this code...

      This is from Ricoh's Product Description of the NEW IM CXX10 series of MFPs.

      SC672 Isolation Improvement

      New troubleshooting flowchart for SC672.

      Transport IOB functions are now merged onto BICU.

      FFC between BICU and Engine IOB changed to normal harness.

      DIMM integrated into Controller.

      If enabled, Auto reboot now occurs for all errors, not just for software errors.
      "Enjoy every sandwich."

      -- Warren Zevon

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      • DRichard
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • May 2008
        • 482

        #4
        Re: SC 672

        Originally posted by DRichard
        FYI... a bit of a side note concerning this code...

        This is from Ricoh's Product Description of the NEW IM CXX10 series of MFPs.

        SC672 Isolation Improvement

        New troubleshooting flowchart for SC672.

        Transport IOB functions are now merged onto BICU.

        FFC between BICU and Engine IOB changed to normal harness.

        DIMM integrated into Controller.

        If enabled, Auto reboot now occurs for all errors, not just for software errors.
        BTW, upon further review...

        The "Improved Troubleshooting" procedure appears to be no more than SC672 indicates a communication failure between the op panel and the controller PCB so the cause of this is either a bad SOP control board, the USB cable or the main control board. (DUH!)
        "Enjoy every sandwich."

        -- Warren Zevon

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        • Matt Sr
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2023
          • 4

          #5
          Re: SC 672

          On the older 50/51 series, 672 codes were almost always caused by the IPU. Nowadays, most 672 codes I see, are the controller.

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          • keithxxiii
            Just a tech

            250+ Posts
            • Nov 2014
            • 469

            #6
            Re: SC 672

            Ricoh had a good profit margin on those boards.

            I had 1 IMC5500, 2 MPC5504, a couple of 3004s in the last 2 months all of them worked fine when controller was replaced.

            I did all the POST Codes diagnostics, CMOS and other stuff as instructed in the flowchart but all of those machines got fixed upon replacement of CTL.
            Aye! Cut the crap

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            • luca72
              Field Supervisor

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2017
              • 1673

              #7
              Re: SC 672

              Originally posted by keithxxiii
              Ricoh had a good profit margin on those boards.

              I had 1 IMC5500, 2 MPC5504, a couple of 3004s in the last 2 months all of them worked fine when controller was replaced.

              I did all the POST Codes diagnostics, CMOS and other stuff as instructed in the flowchart but all of those machines got fixed upon replacement of CTL.

              I discovered a new thing, I have already solved three times with both controller and IPU, after replacing the customer board, and tried it on a machine in the laboratory, the error actually reappeared, I disassembled the board and washed with alcohol and a brush, and then I blew it well, and the card started working again, I think that given the short time needed for this operation, and the high cost of the card, it's worth a try.
              "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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              • Gift
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Mar 2011
                • 2444

                #8
                Re: SC 672

                Originally posted by luca72
                I discovered a new thing, I have already solved three times with both controller and IPU, after replacing the customer board, and tried it on a machine in the laboratory, the error actually reappeared, I disassembled the board and washed with alcohol and a brush, and then I blew it well, and the card started working again, I think that given the short time needed for this operation, and the high cost of the card, it's worth a try.
                That's interesting, looking forward to the next case now to check that out

                Did you scrub it with a brush?

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                • luca72
                  Field Supervisor

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 1673

                  #9
                  Re: SC 672

                  Originally posted by Gift
                  That's interesting, looking forward to the next case now to check that out

                  Did you scrub it with a brush?
                  yes, very well, in both side, with lot alcool and paint-brush...try
                  "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                  • anothertech
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1756

                    #10
                    Re: SC 672

                    Originally posted by luca72
                    yes, very well, in both side, with lot alcohol and paint-brush...try
                    I will try this next time too, got nothing to loose if I'm going to replace it anyways.

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                    • luca72
                      Field Supervisor

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 1673

                      #11
                      Re: SC 672

                      Originally posted by anothertech
                      I will try this next time too, got nothing to loose if I'm going to replace it anyways.
                      Infact, iI did this, because it has worked in the past, in audio electronic enviroment
                      "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                      • anothertech
                        Service Manager

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                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1756

                        #12
                        Re: SC 672

                        Originally posted by luca72
                        Infact, iI did this, because it has worked in the past, in audio electronic enviroment
                        You may find this hard to believe but back in the 80's we used to wash boards in soap and water then hang them to dry overnight. It didn't hurt them. I don't know if I'd go that far today.

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                        • slimslob
                          Retired

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                          • May 2013
                          • 36733

                          #13
                          Re: SC 672

                          Originally posted by anothertech
                          You may find this hard to believe but back in the 80's we used to wash boards in soap and water then hang them to dry overnight. It didn't hurt them. I don't know if I'd go that far today.
                          Back in that time frame I had a state water agency bring in a couple of high end dot matrix printers that they want to know if they could made operational. They had been in storage in a warehouse for a number of years. Took the covers off and found that they had been used by field mice for nesting. Dumped all that nesting and food scraps out, power washed them, rinsed them and blew them dry.They worked.

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                          • Gift
                            Service Manager

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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2444

                            #14
                            Re: SC 672

                            This method also helped me to revive a laptop that ended up in a beer shower during a party back in the days when "Winamp" was popular.

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                            • keithxxiii
                              Just a tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 469

                              #15
                              Re: SC 672

                              Thanks @Luca, I will try to outsource some contact cleaners and spray them. Maybe the humidity in the middle east is a big factor why this boards fail.
                              Aye! Cut the crap

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