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  • skibum
    Independent Service Tech
    Site Contributor
    100+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 231

    #1

    Toshiba 3015AC color developer

    What are the options for Toshiba eStudio 3015AC Color Developer replacement. I find it strange that it is so expensive for color developer for this machine? Color drums and Black developer kit with black drum isn't bad for price.

    I'm a Canon and Kyocera specialist and have never seen color developer cost so much.
  • SalesServiceGuy
    Field Supervisor

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    5,000+ Posts
    • Dec 2009
    • 8071

    #2
    Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

    ... no way around it. Toshiba CMY Developer is very expensive. K Developer is about average.

    I have complained about it for years.

    On the flip side, the Developer usually lasts longer than most five year leases and often longer than factory spec.

    Never buy a used eStudio Colour copier with a high colour meter click.

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    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 22920

      #3
      Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

      Cost-wise the best deal is to buy it as part of a color maintenance kit. And yes, it's still expensive. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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      • aficio63
        Technician
        • Jun 2014
        • 36

        #4
        Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

        Will a process unit for a 3015A work in a 5015A?

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        • mojorolla
          The Wolf

          2,500+ Posts
          • Jan 2010
          • 2569

          #5
          Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

          Originally posted by aficio63
          Will a process unit for a 3015A work in a 5015A?
          If you swap the lid and part #18 of the drive gears, yes it can work. However, the 50 ppm have metal bearings while the 30 ppm unit has plastic bearings. Not sure how long the plastic bearings will last on a 50 ppm machine.


          Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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          • aficio63
            Technician
            • Jun 2014
            • 36

            #6
            Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

            Thank you for the info.

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            • aficio63
              Technician
              • Jun 2014
              • 36

              #7
              Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

              Gear #18 is on the developer drive assy....not the developer itself i take it.

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                • Jul 2007
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                #8
                Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                Originally posted by mojorolla
                If you swap the lid and part #18 of the drive gears, yes it can work. However, the 50 ppm have metal bearings while the 30 ppm unit has plastic bearings. Not sure how long the plastic bearings will last on a 50 ppm machine.


                If the Weisshorn Series is a proper test, the answer is no. When we rebuilt developing units on that series eS2555-5055, we rebuilt them to the higher standard: all real ball-bearings, and gears with bearing inserts. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • mojorolla
                  The Wolf

                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 2569

                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                  Originally posted by aficio63
                  Gear #18 is on the developer drive assy....not the developer itself i take it.
                  Correct


                  Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                  • Copy of a Copy
                    Technician
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 14

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                    I have put k developer in the color units. Toshiba will say you can't. The color will obviously be off at first but if you just run 100 full color copy's and consume the k toner that comes premixed with the developer, it eventually will dump enough new color toner in the unit to where it looks normal. I've done this many times and it hasn't caused any issues. I've even went as for to jump series. One time I threw in some toner from a 2440ac into a 4515ac and had no issue. No auto toner sensor issues, no dirty copies. I'll run auto toner sensor calibration and recalibrate image quality charts. Idk sometimes I think they just say you can't do certain things as to make more money.

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                    • Jasper Bürotechnik
                      Technician

                      Site Contributor
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 25

                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                      Originally posted by skibum
                      What are the options for Toshiba eStudio 3015AC Color Developer replacement. I find it strange that it is so expensive for color developer for this machine? Color drums and Black developer kit with black drum isn't bad for price.

                      I'm a Canon and Kyocera specialist and have never seen color developer cost so much.


                      Hello, I still have a lot of Toshiba Developer in stock, I can offer it to you for half the original EU price.

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                      • Copy of a Copy
                        Technician
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 14

                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                        I added developer, not toner from previous series of mfp's. My mistake. Also, I credit the customer for toner consumed or bring with semi full toners and consume ours instead of the customers.

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          • Dec 2009
                          • 8071

                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                          Originally posted by Copy of a Copy
                          I added developer, not toner from previous series of mfp's. My mistake. Also, I credit the customer for toner consumed or bring with semi full toners and consume ours instead of the customers.
                          I do not find it hard to believe that Developer from a e3005AC will work in a e3015AC.

                          What I am interested in for you to reclarify, is that in a previous post you said you put black developer, in a spent colour developer hopper, ran 100 full colour prints and evenutally the colour image colour quality became acceptable?

                          I know the high end Toshiba colour 65 cpm+copiers have developer in the colour toner but I am sure there is no developer in the colour toner for the 25-45 cpm models.

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                          • Copy of a Copy
                            Technician
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 14

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                            You are correct. On a console higher speed mfp such as a 7516ac, 7506ac Toshiba, color does come premixed in toner, however sometimes the LED discharge gets blocked, and it pulls so much dev that you have to add some from a dev kit. I have not tried adding the toner that comes with developer mixed in with it directly on the mag roller on a higher end mfp. I have added K developer from a 2040ac to a 7516ac and burned the excess k toner and for that jump it looks normal.

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                            • Copy of a Copy
                              Technician
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 14

                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba 3015AC color developer

                              BTW, this isn't something I'd do on a new install simply as I have not tested it. However, if you need to limp a mfp along for a few years this seems to work on the 20 mfp's I've tested it in.

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